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Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 13:35:37 -
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Tre Telos wrote:I really hate the new icons. The old icons were meaningful and visually attractive. The new icons are meaningful, but visually SUCK! No color, and no 3D effect. I suppose I can get used to them, but EVE surely uglified itself in this update.
The same for the color schemes. The color just distract from the menus where they appear. The UI is really ugly now. I will continue to use them, but they are not ascetically pleasing. This update was a step backwards for the UI.
no, it's not just you, it's ugly AND useless. This is not just us having a reaction to change, it's us saying that we actually don't like it like this.
We can and will get used to it, but it smacks of the bad old days of CCP not listening to feed back because we told them all this on the test server and test server forum section.
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Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:05:28 -
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Ms Forum Alt wrote:I think the new UI looks great. Bit disappointed about the colour customisation, having only a few fixed palettes to choose from. Other than that look as a developer I can tell you that nomatter how good you make your UI look, people won't like it because it's changed.
After a few weeks they get used to the new one and forget they ever complained. Indeed if you then went back to the old one they'd hate it.
It's just a fact of life.
Not the case here. Nothing wrong with good change, but this was a series of backwards steps. For example the old icons weren't great but you had 2 ways to learn how to distinguish them (shape AND color), now it's just shape. On smaller screens it sucks because usually people size icons on the neo come to not take up much screen real estate, doing that now means a lot of squinting because you don't have different colors to act as a hint.
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Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:07:08 -
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Eraza wrote:
Interesting in theory, however, I can search through the color icons with my peripheral vision, the monochrome requires me to move my eyes to the bar, and THEN search. it will never be faster then knowing where I'm headed BEFORE moving my eyes over.
Exactly this.
Quote: Seriously, Cribba's suggestion fixes most of my problems with the UI, can I get a tickbox to use the colors he posted on the icons?
I hope so too. I don't need the old icons back, just some color would make the process go much much faster. |
Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:14:01 -
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Ms Forum Alt wrote:Ecks Khan wrote:Ms Forum Alt wrote:I think the new UI looks great. Bit disappointed about the colour customisation, having only a few fixed palettes to choose from. Other than that look as a developer I can tell you that nomatter how good you make your UI look, people won't like it because it's changed.
After a few weeks they get used to the new one and forget they ever complained. Indeed if you then went back to the old one they'd hate it.
It's just a fact of life. Not the case here. Nothing wrong with good change, but this was a series of backwards steps. For example the old icons weren't great but you had 2 ways to learn how to distinguish them (shape AND color), now it's just shape. On smaller screens it sucks because usually people size icons on the neo come to not take up much screen real estate, doing that now means a lot of squinting because you don't have different colors to act as a hint. I was thinking more about the windowing than the icons. The icons definitely need colour cues though.
I too think the windowing is fine.
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Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:24:02 -
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Hardcore Nightmare wrote:
CCP GIV US KOLORS!
Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP0OaUOQGCg
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Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:51:12 -
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Niskin wrote:Eraza wrote:Interesting in theory, however, I can search through the color icons with my peripheral vision, the monochrome requires me to move my eyes to the bar, and THEN search. it will never be faster then knowing where I'm headed BEFORE moving my eyes over.
Seriously, Cribba's suggestion fixes most of my problems with the UI, can I get a tickbox to use the colors he posted on the icons?
Really? So you found the icons you looked at for years easier to identify with your peripheral vision than the new ones you've only looked at for a few hours? This is just muscle memory, we've been staring at those icons forever. The new ones have barely been live for 24 hours. The PI icon is almost exactly the same, but monochrome. The wallet icon is much easier to see and identify now, peripherally or otherwise. The Inventory icon has been simplified, and looks like the inventory icon from Minecraft. I didn't look at Chribba's pic, and I'm not opposed to some color being present, but the vector look is much cleaner and easier to parse at a glance. Give it a few days to adjust.
You're not understanding what Eraza is saying. It's nto muscle memory, it's a fact that human eyes can discern colors via peripheral vision. This new monochrome BS forces you to look directly at an icon to 'see' it. I haven't rearranged the icons on my neo-com for ages, if it were a matter of muscle memory i'd just go straight to the same location i used to. But without the que you get from something having a color, i'm forced to turn my head to make sure.
This is VERY bad in a fast moving situation (like being in an epic arc and trying to balance your cap vs your shield boosting and wanting to click on the journal to check out the objectives, and that's just a pve example).
CCP is probably the only company I've patronized that introduces things that offer less useability and functionality than the previous iteration of the same thing and calls it 'progress'. Ok, not the only company, there is of course Microsoft doing the same thing lol.
Chribba's simple paintjob fix would 100% fix the issue if you took the time to actually look at it before posting about it.
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Ecks Khan
The Northerners Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.12.10 14:58:35 -
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The lack of color was a conscious choice. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5187521#post5187628
I don't know why they think a lack of color helps people, especially those of us over 40 who are starting to experience small natural eyesight changes.
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